Lee Sang-min said, "The president's request to leave the party is...We should be responsible for the power of the people."

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□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 6, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Lee Sang-min, former lawmaker of the People's Power

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◆ Lawyer Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-seung, the news on my way to work. Time to dig into and forecast the third part of the news on Friday begins. Let's talk with Lee Sang-min, a former member of the People's Power Party. Are you here?

◇ Lee Sang-min, former member of the People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Lee Sang-min): Yes, hello.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Now, the six opposition parties have pushed for the impeachment of the president on the grounds of President Yoon's declaration of emergency martial law. It will be put to a vote tomorrow. How do you see the impeachment drive of President Lee?

◇ Lee Sang-min: The ultimate goal of Chairman Lee Jae-myung and the people of the Democratic Party was to bring down President Yoon Suk Yeol in the middle of his term anyway and make him pull the presidential election early anyway to avoid various judicial risk judicial trials criminal punishments that Chairman Lee Jae-myung is now in crisis. As part of achieving this goal, the emergency martial law incident is an excuse, but I think the plan to eventually expel President Yoon Suk Yeol in the middle of his term and hold an early presidential election to take power has been revealed.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. If so, the people's power has decided against impeachment with the party's theory, so will they oppose impeachment?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I don't think members of the People's Power can help us in handing over power to Lee Jae-myung, who is now suspected of serious crimes and is on trial, and the Democratic Party, which is a den of various crimes such as the so-called money envelope case. In any case, even if we are inexperienced and do something wrong, I think we should once again strengthen our minds to protect President Yoon Suk Yeol in solidarity and support the Yoon Suk Yeol government to do well so that the power will fall to Lee Jae-myung and the Democratic Party of Korea, and the people's livelihood will not be abandoned.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. The senator's voice is ringing a little, but are you in a meeting?

◇ Lee Sang-min: The heads of four provincial and provincial parties in the People's Power Daejeon, Sejong, Chungcheongnam-do, and Chungcheongbuk-do are meeting and gathering every month to create an exemplary model for the development of the Chungcheong area as well as upgrading Korean politics, which we are now falling into extreme confrontation politics and fighting politics. I'm answering the phone because I'm in the middle of a meeting, and I'm sorry there's an echo.

◆ BAE SEUNGHEE: No, it's not. Rather, I'd like to hear from the chairmen of the provincial and provincial parties in the Chungcheong area. What's your reaction?

◇ Lee Sang-min: So far, Chairman Lee Jae-myung and the Democratic Party have been tackling the Yoon Suk Yeol administration since its inception, and aren't ministers, members of the government, and even the prosecutors investigating their irregularities this time by impeaching the chief of the Board of Audit and Inspection and the chief of the central prosecutor's office to stop all major functions of the state? I think the power of the Korean people should join forces to fight, win, and establish justice, take care of people's livelihoods, and promote the development of the country in this hideous tactic of destroying the Yoon Suk Yeol government and eventually holding a presidential election early. In that sense, as I said to the Chungcheong area, the power of the people is immature, wrong, and inconsistent with the public sentiment, and I think we should be more determined to make these people do better so that they can be satisfied.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But yesterday, Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo said that President Yoon Suk Yeol should step down. I made this argument. How do you see it?

◇ Lee Sang-min: No organization in the world can have the same thoughts, but if President Yoon Suk Yeol resigns in the middle of his term like Representative Ahn Cheol Soo, there is no power of the people. Why should only the president of Yoon Suk Yeol be responsible? Aren't all members of the people's power, including Representative Ahn Cheol Soo, who said that, responsible for creating such a political situation, and Chairman Lee Jae-myung and the Democratic Party of Korea, who provided the cause of this political situation, should be held accountable at once? I think it's very cowardly and mean for President Yoon Suk Yeol to demand a defection from the people or for President Yoon Suk Yeol to lift his resignation along the way. Isn't it the responsibility of everyone in the political circle to turn Korean politics into such a messy and extreme battle site and to be buried in their own power and political strife rather than thinking about the country and the people? In that sense, I think it is premature to insist on resigning or leaving the party in the middle of President Yoon Suk Yeol's term. We have to take responsibility together. I think we should make more efforts to take care of the people's livelihoods in taking the center of the country and pioneering the nation so that the people's power and the people's power will be shattered. We should restore it again, correct politics, and take care of the people's livelihoods so that justice does not fall into the den of criminals.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Also yesterday, Kim Ye-ji and Kim Jae-seop, a member of the People's Power Young People's Association, held an emergency press conference at the National Assembly and demanded a public apology from President Yoon Suk Yeol and a constitutional amendment to shorten his term of office. If the president rejects the proposal, it will affect the vote on Yoon's impeachment. I hinted at it like this. How do you see this?

◇ Lee Sang-min: In principle, if our country does not adopt a parliamentary cabinet system, but a presidential system with a fixed term of office, that term should be guaranteed. If the president has to step down in the middle of such a term, lawmakers should not be guaranteed a term.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right.

◇ Lee Sang-min: Then I think it is necessary for all members of the National Assembly to resign in the middle of their terms and take responsibility for all this. If we really want to change our national operating system or our system, I think the ruling and opposition parties should be serious about the discussion at the National Assembly. I don't think it's an appropriate approach to make a constitutional amendment on the premise of shortening the term of President Yoon Suk Yeol. If we change the national operating system, in principle, we guarantee the term of President Yoon Suk Yeol as an extension of the current system, and if there is a grand agreement between President Yoon Suk Yeol and the ruling and opposition parties, any agreement can be realized by the agreement then. But now, President Yoon Suk Yeol is in a crisis and in a difficult position, so he must step aside. I don't think it's ever wise to drive this way. Right. Just as we have the principle of precedent arrest, I think we should set a good precedent for the court. Whether it was different or not, I can accept what the younger lawmakers said if it is necessary to make efforts to improve, improve, revise, and supplement what needs to be fixed in accordance with the original principles, but I don't think it's wise to ask President Yoon Suk Yeol to step down to shorten his term or get him to shorten his term first.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, the opposition party's request for impeachment was impeached yesterday, and three prosecutors were impeached. In this regard, it was called expected farming, and if you look at President Yoon Suk Yeol's declaration of emergency martial law, it says this. Let's say this really led to emergency martial law.

◇ Lee Sang-min: I can't say anything because I haven't confirmed anything about President Yoon Suk Yeol's intention or planned meaning, but President Yoon Suk Yeol also needs to reflect deeply on this and apologize to the people, and now I will make more efforts to match the will of the people. Didn't the president himself also say that? I think that kind of effort is necessary. In this regard, I think it is necessary to reflect deeply on this and apologize to the public because this emergency martial law incident was very immature and clumsy, and the people were nervous about running state affairs and the president provided the cause of concern. Right. The more I do that, the better I will serve the people and run a state administration that meets the will of the people. And even more so, I think we need to demonstrate that we will demonstrate our leadership to lead the state administration from superiority to political power, even though it is the Democratic Party of Korea and Lee Jae-myung, who is vicious.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. So tomorrow. Now, there is an impeachment vote on impeachment, and the Democratic Party of Korea is also voting on the first lady Kim's special prosecution law at the same time. So how much influence will this vote be on the parts that have been said, these believers, Ahn Cheol Soo members, etc.?

◇ Lee Sang-min: As I said before, wouldn't the president's duties be suspended if the impeachment of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, which could significantly damage the term of the president, amplify people's anxiety and damage the country right now? Then, for a considerable period of time, the president's leadership has been settled, and our Republic, which is currently in various difficult situations at home and abroad, will fall even more into Mercury. I don't think the members of the People's Power, our ruling party, will cause this ridiculous situation.

◆ Bae Seung-hee : Apart from Mrs. Kim

◇ Lee Sang-min: History of Kim Gun-hee

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The question of the Special Counsel Act is

◇ Lee Sang-min: If the public suspicion about it is unabated and the suspicion needs to be resolved, I think there are aspects to be worked on separately.

◆ Bae Seung-Hee: Then everyone will go in and

◇ Lee Sang-min: Of course, I think the impeachment against the president will be rejected as set by the party's theory. I personally think that if the independent counsel case of Kim Gun-wook is revised and supplemented to suit various requirements, the ruling and opposition parties can agree to create a more advanced shape.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Representative Han Dong-hoon has decided to oppose the impeachment motion of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, but on the other hand, he is demanding that the president leave the party. Does this subside if the president leaves the party?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I don't think so. As I said before, I think the power of the ruling party, the people, should be jointly responsible for the achievements and mistakes, whether President Yoon Suk Yeol did well or wrong. When Yoon Suk Yeol won the presidential election not long ago, the opposition party as well as ruling party members of the People's Power Party did the same to take a picture with Yoon Suk Yeol, right? Under such circumstances, it is not wise to say that the power of the people will be cut off just because President Yoon Suk Yeol has made a mistake or a defect against a certain people. Rather, the more we do that, the more we will take responsibility for President Yoon Suk Yeol's fault in state affairs, and the power of the ruling party, the people. Then I'll do better. I will ask the people to forgive their mistakes and explain them in detail to the people, and I will not make such mistakes in the future. And I think we should show more competent and smart leadership in state affairs. In that sense, it may be useful in terms of improving and avoiding the eyes of the visible people right now, but in the end, I think it is by no means desirable from the standpoint of long-term and responsible political forces.

◆ BAE SEUNGHEE : I mean

◇ Lee Sang-min: I think we should share the achievements and share the breakdown together with the president, whether it's a fault or a good thing.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: To summarize, you mean that the president and the power of the people should apologize and take responsibility together.

◇ Lee Sang-min: Yes, that's right. And we need to show more competent performances. Making a mess of the state affairs of the current Democratic Party of Korea and Chairman Lee Jae-myung. When it comes to toppling the Yoon Suk Yeol government, shouldn't we take the lead in preventing it from doing so by exercising it with political power? Until now, it is a difficult environment just because there are few seats, but the only thing that the people's power has fought against is to leave the conference hall, be helpless, and complain, but that is not competent.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay.

◇ Lee Sang-min: Why did you enter the National Assembly to take power? We must be smarter in the end in order to take the lead against Lee Jae-myung and his accomplices, the people of the Democratic Party, who are competently smart and show such vicious and excessive politics.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay.

◇ Lee Sang-min: I think it should be clear.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Let's wrap it up. This time, former Governor Kim Kyung-soo returned home and met with Lee Jae-myung. I immediately returned home right after the emergency martial law. What do you think of Governor Kim Kyung-soo's move?

◇ Lee Sang-min: Yes, I didn't hear the question well.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Former Governor Kim Kyung-soo returned home. What do you think of former Governor Kim Kyung-soo's move?

◇ Lee Sang-min: That's what I'm saying. It's as if there's a fire somewhere and it's like they're doing it for the country and the people, but what's former Governor Kim Kyung-soo doing so far? Didn't you get a special pardon while you were in prison for criminal punishment? Isn't it time for self-reflection? Now that he has committed a crime himself, and because of that, the Moon Jae In government is being launched, he would have been the one who needs to reflect and reflect on himself if he had been swimming in prison and received special pardons due to such various offenses. I don't see the opposition party now thinking that my turn can come at this time, and just making a fuss when I release it to a daycare center. Not only Governor Kim Kyung-soo, but also Representative Lee Jae-myung is a criminal defendant who has been convicted not long ago, has several criminal trials ahead of him, and is being tried. As for President Yoon Suk Yeol's emergency martial law incident, he came in and turned it over, as if he were a general of improvement, and the people of the Democratic Party of Korea are very extraordinary and arrogant.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Let me ask you a question as representative Lee Jae-myung. Gentleman

◇ Lee Sang-min: I think they need to reflect on themselves to take responsibility for making a mess of state affairs and dropping politics into the abyss.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Now representative Lee Jae-myung and representative Cho Kuk. I asked them to postpone the court trial again. How do you eat this part?

◇ Lee Sang-min: Does that make sense? Why does a criminal defendant of a serious crime avoid trial? Of course, if you are a citizen of the Republic of Korea, you cannot postpone the criminal trial at will. That's right. But there are not one or two representatives Lee Jae-myung, but how many shows have you put off the trial? Last time, when an arrest warrant was issued during some kind of hunger strike, didn't I even show the members of the Democratic Party of Korea that I was a member of the Democratic Party at the time, but I asked them to vote down so that they wouldn't be arrested the day before?

◆ Bae Seung-Hee: And you mean the same thing this time, right?

◇ Lee Sang-min: If the Supreme Court ruling is confirmed now, you have to swim. Why should the Supreme Court sentence be postponed? I say that it is very deplorable that those who do not even qualify as citizens of the Republic of Korea are going to become leaders of the Republic of Korea because of them.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. That's all for today.

◇ Lee Sang-min: Yes, thank you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: So far, we have been with Lee Sang-min, a former member of the People's Power.