野 Park Sun-won, "Kim 尹 visited the Joint Chiefs of Staff and obtained angry information about 'Why can't you suppress it properly?'"

- 尹 Martial Law Scandal, Military Manpower Center, Police Support
- Failed Martial Law? Coups blocked by the Democratic Party of Korea
- Lee Sang-min could not rule out the relevance of Minister of Public Administration and Security
- 尹 claims 'warning martial law'? Admitting 'civil war'
- Defense Minister Lee 尹 must have written a decree together

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: December 5, 2024 (Thursday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Rep. Park Sun-won of the Democratic Party of Korea

- After receiving intelligence that Kim 尹 visited the command and control office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was furious
- Why can't I enter the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the time of martial law?
- Possible second martial law? 60-70% Very High

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.




◇ Shinryul: Shinryul's News Head-to-head Match Part 2 begins. The person we will meet in the front interview of the second part is Rep. Park Sun-won of the Democratic Party of Korea. I'm on the phone right now. How are you, Senator?

◆Park Sun-won: Yes, hello.

◇ Shin Yul: Hello. Yes. You're just doing great these days.

◆ Park Sun-won: I'm working hard.

◇Shin Yul: First of all, I have a lot of questions to ask. Representative Park Sun-won served as the deputy director of the National Intelligence Service. But if you look at SBS news yesterday, The soldiers who put them in the National Assembly. This main unit has been identified as a 707 Special Task Force, right?

◆Park Sun-won: Yes. That's right

◇ Shin-ryul: What this is, however, is coming out of SBS news here, and an intelligence official said that it is impossible to deploy the 707 Special Task Force, which is funded by the National Intelligence Service, without the permission of the National Intelligence Service. I reported it like this. What do you think?

◆ Park Sun-won: As far as I know, the special lease was not directly paid to the NIS. It is true that cooperation with the National Intelligence Service is very close because it is a counter-terrorism mission. It is true that we are in a cooperative relationship over work.

◇ Shin Yul: Then, as shown in this article, it is impossible for the NIS to give permission to the NIS. 707 Special Forces. Is this the right report? How do you see it?

◆ Park Sun-won: That's not true. Otherwise, the command authority for the overall 707 Special Lease is held by the Special Forces Commander.

◇ Shin Yul: So you're saying that this is not an accurate story.

◆ Park Sun-won: Yes. That's what I know. We can do something like international cooperation with the National Intelligence Service in the execution of terrorist missions. However, I won't go into detail about the intelligence agency, but I don't think the report is true.

◇ Shin-ryul: President Yoon's explanation that his declaration of emergency martial law was a warning to the opposition party's runaway has been reported in the media. What do you think?

◆ Park Sun-won: It doesn't make sense. It's a self-admitment that he's engaged in a civil war for political purposes. Isn't emergency martial law a martial law that mobilizes quasi-war or wartime national rebellion? However, he will create a civil war and wipe out the Democratic Party of Korea in a state that is neither wartime nor quasi-war. I will suppress the Democratic Party politically. This is nothing more than the claim that he was willing to revolt because he would mobilize special forces to convert the counterintelligence command into a joint investigation headquarters to investigate, detain and punish the same party as the People's Power into another big ruling party.

◇ Shin Yul: I want to ask you something. Mr. Cho Kuk is the chief of staff of the Army. I ask Army Chief of Staff Park An-soo. He was a martial law commander, but he said he didn't know if he knew he was going to the National Assembly. And I don't think anyone knows who wrote this.

◆ Park Sun-won: The decree was now received from the defense minister and reviewed, but I don't know whether it is legal or illegal, so I checked it with the minister and it was reviewed by the law. He said there was no problem, but nevertheless, the original decree was supposed to be at 10 o'clock. On December 3rd, at 10pm, so please run and fix this one thing. So I changed it to 11 o'clock.

◇ Shin Yul: Who wrote that?

◆ Park Sun-won: It is an admission that Park An-soo fully accepted the entire decree as martial law commander and announced it in his name. It has the same effect as what you write.

◇ Shin Yul: Of course, the effect can be like that. I'm also curious about who wrote it.

◆ Park Sun-won: I heard from the National Defense Commission in the morning that I received it through the spokesman's office of the Ministry of National Defense. So this was written by the Secretary of Defense's office, and we believe that the Secretary of Defense's office would have written it with Yoon Suk Yeol.

◇ Shinryul: But the word proclamation is a bit too much.

◆Park Sun-won: It's a word that can't exist.

◇ Shin Yul: So, there's a reason why I'm curious about this. If you look at it, words like the National Assembly and local councils come out. That is why political and political activities are prohibited. Isn't this what you're talking about? But martial law can control the administration and the judiciary, but it can't control the legislature, right? That's why if you look at this decree legally, the legal review wasn't done properly. I'm asking because I'm curious who wrote it.

◆ Park Sun-won: So legally, it's unconstitutional and illegal. It's really problematic that you did this even though you knew it.

◇ Shin Yul: Do you think you did it knowingly?

◆ As you just said, the martial law working manual issued by the martial law Joint Chiefs of Staff clearly states that there is no power to restrict the legislative power of the martial law commander. Everyone knows that. Nevertheless, isn't it said that political activities were banned as proclamation No. 1, and that if you look at the end of the decree, you can be arrested and detained? So, the key thing this time is that the decree itself contains the political coup targeting the Democratic Party and the rebellion itself, and the authors are Yoon Suk Yeol and Kim Yong-hyun. Because the martial law commander received it as Kim Yong-hyun and reviewed the law, and it contains such information. Isn't that possible because it was written by a lawyer-turned-Yoon Suk Yeol?

◇ Shin-ryul: And one more thing is that Rep. Park was the first to tell you about former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun's escape abroad, right? Do you know where it is now? this person

◆Park Sun-won: Intelligence on this person came in around 11 o'clock. If this person escapes abroad after receiving intelligence that he will soon escape after making his last greetings as defense minister in the morning with his close aides, the link between Yoon Suk Yeol and Kim Yong-hyun will be cut. If this person runs away after saying that he/she took responsibility for everything, the truth of this civil war will be covered, so he/she should not escape abroad. From that point of view, the overseas flight was disclosed to the media, and the National Assembly's Public Administration and Security Committee ordered Woo Jong-soo, the head of the National Investigation Headquarters, to ban him from leaving the country, and the prosecution ordered him to ban him from leaving the country.

◇ Shin Yul: Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun said this. The Chosun Ilbo reported that there is no intention of leaving the country due to political instigation over the rumor of fleeing abroad.

◆Park Sun-won: When Kim Yong-hyun is embarrassed, what he always says is political incitement. When I asked if you were preparing for martial law, which is close to preparing for a coup, you said it was a groundless political instigation. We secretly called the new commander, the special forces commander, the counterintelligence commander, and the defense commander to meet him. He said it was a political instigation even then. This person has always told me that he is a political instigator when his true feelings are found out.

◇ Shin-ryul: Another thing is, how did you feel on the 4th night after former Minister Kim Yong-hyun offered to resign? I think the reporter probably sent this via text message, which said, "The road of justice is tougher than the road of complacent injustice..."

◆ Park Sun-won: So he's cosplaying as if he's going the right way alone, saying he'll take all the burden of Yoon Suk Yeol and finish it on his own, and it's all false.

◇ Shin Yul: I asked you because there is a word for justice.

◆ Park Sun-won: You may have a concept that suits you personally. Even evil men don't think of themselves as evil men, do they?

◇ Shin-ryul: So, from the point of view of former Minister Kim Yong-hyun, it's not that surprising to see his actions as justice?

◆ Park Sun-won: Right, Hitler thought he was justice. Didn't Chun Doo-hwan also advocate for the realization of justice because he thought he was justice?

◇ Shin Yul: There seems to be a lot of intelligence coming in from the lawmaker, but are you still coming in?

◆ Park Sun-won: I come in at that time.

◇ Shin Yul: Is there anything noteworthy?

◆ Park Sun-won: Not yet. I posted it on Facebook, but didn't the National Assembly vote to lift martial law? At that time, the Office of the President is not accommodating this because the members of the State Council have not yet arrived. Didn't you react like this? At that time, the Yoon Suk Yeol went to the command and control room of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and there was a tip-off about what he had done and what he had said.

◇ Shin Yul: What did you do?

◆ Park Sun-won: I understand that he was angry and angry at Yoon Suk Yeol and yelled at military officials, including the martial law commander, and expressed dissatisfaction with why he failed to properly suppress it.

◇ Shin Yul: Did you post it on Facebook?

◆ Park Sun-won: I posted on Facebook that President Yoon Suk Yeol should go to the command and control room of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and reveal what he did.

◇ Shin Yul: Then this is the first time you're telling us. However, according to some reports, the military that was sent to the National Assembly now probably spilled it. I saw a report that a soldier's handcuffs were found.

◆ Park Sun-won: Yes. It's called a plastic tie.

◇ Shin Yul: When you look at something like that, what do you think it is? Why did I have that?

◆Park Sun-won: So the 1st Airborne Brigade came in, surrounded the outskirts of the main office of the National Assembly, and the 707th Special Lease came into the main office and drove the lawmakers into the corner, and then the Military Police Special Task Force of the Capital Defense Command came in and brought it to use to arrest and transfer the lawmakers.

◇ Shin Yul: So you're judging that there was a real intention of arrest?

◆ Park Sun-won: They were trying to arrest us and take us to the counterintelligence command, and when the counterintelligence command turned into a joint investigation headquarters, they tried to treat us like criminals.

◇ Shin Yul: No, there are so many lawmakers, but are they 280 people? That's all.

◆ Park Sun-won: How do you view Korea's special rental?

◇ Shin Yul: I see. Anyway, I think we can understand that what you're talking about is intelligence. Representative Park can understand that everything is intelligence now, and is it correct that he is pushing for the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol and the re-decision of the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim Gun-hee at the same time?

◆ Park Sun-won: We're going according to schedule.

◇ Shin Yul: Do you think the impeachment motion will come out?

◆ Park Sun-won: Of course, the departure ticket comes out. Wouldn't it matter how much it comes out?

◇ Shin Yul: How much do you think it'll be?

◆ Park Sun-won: It doesn't have the knowledge to say a few because it has the floor leader leadership.

◇Shin Yul: Then let me ask you this. Do you think Kim Gun-hee's re-vote is highly likely to pass?

◆ Park Sun-won: I think it's been relatively high. It went up, but that's not something I can evaluate either.

◇ Shin Yul: I see. Then let me ask you this. Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok seemed to think highly of the possibility of a second constitutional amendment. Rep. Park Sun-won, how much do you see?

◆ Park Sun-won: I think the possibility of a second martial law is quite high in terms of the size of what Yoon Suk Yeol has done.

◇ Credit: What percentage do you think it is if you just say it roughly as a percentage?

◆ Park Sun-won: I think it's about 60-70%.

◇Fidelity: 60-70%.

◆ Sun-Won Park: 60 to 70 percent are called 'Hayley Likely' by this intelligence agency. I think it's 60-70% when it's quite high, but I think it's 60-70%.

◇ Shin Yul: But I'm asking because I'm curious, but isn't this martial law a total failure?

◆ Park Sun-won: It's not a failed martial law. It's a coup deterred by the Democratic Party. You have to know exactly that. They did the best they could and we could have prevented it because our Democratic Party had already prepared it, not easy martial law. It was a very difficult situation.

◇ Shin Yul: Could you explain the difficult situation in detail?

◆ Park Sun-won: How is that a failed coup when the president announces it at 10:30 p.m. and a special rental enters the National Assembly within an hour? There is a possibility that we will do that coup even before then. Therefore, if the National Assembly does not immediately issue a resolution to lift the bill, it will be in big trouble. We stopped it because we had the determination, the will, and the preparation of mind that we really had to risk our lives to stop it, not a failed coup. It's a coup deterred by the Democratic Party.

◇ Shinryul: Representative Park said there is a high possibility of a second martial law, so what do you think is the roughly timing?

◆ Park Sun-won: We have to see that. We have to see how they rebuild with one axis called Kim Yong-hyun collapsed.

◇ Shin Yul: So you're judging that the axis has collapsed.

◆ Park Sun-won: It is true that one axis has collapsed. But it's still there.

◇Shin Yul: And I have another question that the martial law army went to the NEC. Why did you go? This is

◆ Park Sun-won: Didn't that mean we went to the Constitutional Court to get data that was trying to deprive our Democratic lawmakers of their seats? That's what I'm speculating about. There's no other way to explain it.

◇ Shin-ryul: I'm sure Rep. Park also experienced martial law when he was young, but I don't think there was anything like this before when he went to the NEC's martial law army?

◆ Park Sun-won: That's why I'm seeing that we went to secure the basis to legally oust our Democratic Party from Congress. This is a whole new collective hybrid group. It's completely different from Chun Doo-hwan.

◇ Shin Yul: Are there 280 people or 60 people now? That's how I joined the National Assembly.

◆ Park Sun-won: I think there are more numbers than that.

◇ Shin Yul: Is that so? Then, how many people do you roughly infer?

◆Park Seon-won: There were nearly 400 people and there was also the 9th Airborne Brigade near there.

◇ Shin Yul: Then the 9th Airborne Brigade will be deployed in case of emergency?

◆ Park Sun-won: It's just that we're constantly being put in. They would have arrested us, taken us to the counterintelligence command in Gwacheon, set up a joint investigation headquarters, interrogated us, and done everything, starting with legal torture. That's what we stopped. I risked my life to stop it.

◇ Shin Yul: I see. However, the current ruling party is trying to block the impeachment of President Yoon for now. How do you see it? This position is

◆Park Sun-won: It means that they are not 100% in the same position. Isn't it a reflection of the reality that not everyone is 100% united?

◇ Shin-ryul: Anyway, do you think the Democratic Party has been organized on this issue?

◆ Park Sun-won: It's a coup rebellion. The Democratic Party blocked it and the Democratic Citizen blocked it together. This is the basic position. Park An-soo was still the commander of martial law, and all of them were current offenders. So, I believe that immunity does not apply to the civil war, including the president, so we should arrest and prosecute it. As part of the process, we are pushing for impeachment.

◇ Shinryul: The Army Chief of Staff Park An-soo, commander of martial law, is also responsible. That's what you mean, right? Isn't the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff supposed to do this? Martial law commander, yes.

◆Park Sun-won: If you look at the DSC plan, the Army will be in charge of the materials made during the Park Geun Hye of the DSC Cho Hyun-cheon. The reason for that is that sometimes the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is not the Army. The Navy is doing it right now. But in the military system, isn't the main force of these forces, including Kim Yong-hyun, the army? That's why I decided to leave it to the army chief. As soon as he becomes the martial law commander, the authority over the movement and control of the military is established in the martial law commander, so the army chief is definitely better than the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Because the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is now the Navy, but it could be the Air Force, right? That's why I left it to the Army.

◇Shin Yul: Let me ask you one more thing. You've talked about Chungam High School line a lot. Do you think the Democratic Party went as it was?

◆Park Sun-won: Of course. Aren't the president from Chungam High School, Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun from Chungam High School, female counterintelligence commander from Chungam High School, and the Minister of Public Administration and Security from Chungam High School all involved?

◇ Shin Yul: You're saying we can't rule out the relevance of Minister Lee Sang-min, right?

◆Park Sun-won: Of course. Why would the police surround the National Assembly? And Minister of Public Administration and Security Lee Sang-min visited the counterintelligence office with Woo Jong-soo, the head of the National Investigation Headquarters, in March, and on June 28, Woo Jong-soo, the head of the National Investigation Headquarters, signed a business agreement with the counterintelligence commander, and isn't it written there? If a joint investigation headquarters is established, it will support investigative personnel. Isn't it the Minister of Public Administration and Security Lee Sang-min who led the process?

◇Shin Yul: I asked you this because some people said you were a military officer,

◆Park Sun-won: It's centered on the Korea Military Academy, supported by the police, and supported by Lee Sang-min. That's why Chungam faction is able to issue a business agreement between the counterintelligence command and the National Investigation Headquarters on June 28. If there's the word Joint Investigation Headquarters in there and you support the workforce, who will support who? The Joint Investigation Headquarters will become a counterintelligence agent.
◇ Synthesis: Yes, sir. I think you're busy, but thank you for saying this so far. So far, I was Park Sun-won of the Democratic Party of Korea.