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□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 21, 2024 (Thursday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Rep. Mo Kyung-jong of the Democratic Party of Korea
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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting. Thursday leads to youth regret in the third part. We have a new person today. In the past, Mo Kyung-jong, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's National Youth Committee, who is also the youngest member of the National Assembly in the Incheon district as the youth secretary of the Gyeonggi Provincial Government, was invited. Hello,
◇ Rep. Mo Kyung-jong of the Democratic Party of Korea (hereinafter referred to as Mo Kyung-jong): Hello, nice to meet you. It's a mother-of-pearl bell.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: When were you at the Gyeonggi Provincial Office, the youth secretary of the Gyeonggi Provincial Office?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Around October 2019, I went into the form of a commonly called public audition. Do you do it as a rosacea blind? That's why you're not the secretary who rode the usual line, but yes, you are doing that publicly. This is the secretary who went in.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Was Gyeonggi Province Governor Lee Jae-myung at the time? Right. You emphasized the need for young politics, what kind of politics is it?
◇Moh Kyung-jong: There may be many interpretations, but I don't think it's young politics when it comes to legal age. In the end, it's the standard of what you set as the standard and do politics, but I don't think it's young politics to say that you have to do this because you've only been involved in the past. Yes, we have to interpret it at this point. I think young politics is politics that says what to do in the future based on the present standard.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see what to do from now on. Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea, was sentenced to one year in prison and two years of probation in the first trial on charges of violating the Public Official Election Act. I think there's some internal nursery rhymes. Rep. Choi Min-hee is even saying, "If you move, you will die." How do you see the situation in this party?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: First of all, Representative Choi Min-hee said that he was too much to say about that. I'm not aware of the atmosphere of agitation in the party. All right. There are more people who say that you need to be more calm and determined. There are more people who say that we need to get together more.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Is that so? Some people seem to have made a mistake in responding to the violation of the Public Official Election Act. The Democratic Party of Korea's outdoor struggle and some lawmakers' remarks on presiding over judges also seem to have had an adverse effect. There's also this evaluation. How do you see it?
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: First of all, the person who said it was the subject of the judge was punished right away by the party. But I think that saying that itself is too light on the judiciary. It's not that this statement itself is, but that the result is that it is too light on the judiciary. I don't think that's what caused the results to go this way or that. And the same is true of the off-the-shelf struggle. The over-the-counter struggle itself was an over-the-counter rally that talked about the incompetence of President Yoon Suk Yeol and the Yoon Suk Yeol government itself and condemned the political prosecution, not at all an over-the-counter rally that pressured the law or the judiciary. That's why I think it's too much of a leap to interpret it like that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But now the party will respond to this violation of the Public Official Election Act. I will respond at the party level. There were even remarks, but there were even comments that the party could even pay for lawyers. These parts seem a little problematic to do individual criminal cases at the party. What do you think?
◇Catricorn: First, it's a bit different to see it as an individual criminal case. CEO Lee Jae-myung is on various trials.Ma is a story of the Public Official Election Act, or the presidential election process, and since the presidential candidate has been prosecuted and the trial is taking place now, I think we should set a different standard from other cases even if we are responding at the party level. I don't think there's a problem with providing various support from the school itself. We can talk a little bit about other cases.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What kind of support will you apply for?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: First of all, it's not clear how to apply. However, at various levels of the party, it is possible to do various contents such as the legal aid law. I've heard this much.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. You said that the disability rally and these parts did not affect the ruling, but on the 25th of next week, there will be another trial on the perjury teacher charge, right? But in addition, the largest organization of the real name submitted 1.1 million petitions. Wouldn't these parts be seen as pressure on the judge?
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: You won't be pressured by that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'm not under pressure
◇Moh Kyung-jong: To simply say that I did it even though I wasn't pressured, I think it's very meaningful that I showed it by gathering the will of 1.1 million people or the will of 1.1 million people. Rather, if you're putting pressure on, broadcast the trial live. And I think that the people in the group who are talking about various things are pressuring the judiciary of the court. I think the people can submit a petition as much as they want. I don't know if the pressure level is high simply because the number is high, but that's how many people are innocent of that part of CEO Lee Jae-myung. I think you can think of it as just conveying your opinion.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What do you think, Senator? the 25th
for the guilt
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I'm not a law expert, but when I've studied like this, I found that the prosecution read several recordings when prosecutors were prosecuting, and we're claiming that we've fabricated evidence. There is a principle of presumption of innocence, and from that point of view, it is clearly more likely to be acquitted than in general cases.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You think it's big. I see. In the midst of this, the prosecution also indicted CEO Lee Jae-myung on suspicion of misappropriation of corporate credit cards. The Democratic Party of Korea is in a position where it goes this far. Do you see it as part of a political vendetta?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Of course. It's already the sixth time to indict CEO Lee Jae-myung. It's the sixth one. There are various reasons for the prosecution, but Lee Jae-myung did not even know whether he did it or not because he did not know the situation when he was governor. Representative Lee Jae-myung knew and ordered. Or you may have known. I think the prosecution without question, which prosecutes in this way, really shows the current address of the political prosecution.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You also worked for Gyeonggi Provincial Government. Yes, did you use the company card?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: No. I didn't have one.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then who has the corporate card?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Usually, people like the director-general had it.
◆Bae Seung-hee: I have the governor of Gyeonggi-do Province
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: I'm sure it was. I don't know exactly. Even when I was a secretary, I was now a secretary in charge of youth policy, but I always had no legalization
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You don't know. I see. In response, former lawmaker Yoo Seung Min said. Lee Jae-myung should step down as party leader until judicial risks are cleared. I said this. How do you see it?
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: I'd like to believe you said it out of good intentions. I've never personally met a member of the Yoo Seung Min, but he's a well-received one. I think you're very interested in other parties. Yes, just because you think it's up to you and step down from your position as the party leader doesn't mean that the cases called judicial risks don't disappear. And because he is performing his duty really well despite the various scandals that have occurred so far and he has not neglected it, he should step down because of the prosecution of the political prosecution. I don't think it's true at all, Bob
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Fisherman's orthodoxy. Yesterday, the Cho Kuk Innovation Party unveiled the impeachment motion against President Yoon Suk Yeol with 15 reasons for impeachment. The Cho Kuk Innovation Party, the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, and the Cho Kuk Innovation Party cannot prosecute the impeachment anyway, right? I think we need to cooperate with the Democratic Party of Korea, what do you think of the Democratic Party?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: It is true that more and more people are talking about the need for impeachment. And the Cho Kuk Innovation Party must have made a judgment at the party level. However, I think the first thing to do is to accurately convey information and talk about the reasons for the impeachment of the Yoon Suk Yeol government, rather than start a fire that lawmakers should prosecute the impeachment. Impeachment seems to be done by lawmakers, but it's actually done by the people. When the people talk about impeachment, wouldn't there be a time to talk about impeachment, regardless of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, the Democratic Party, and even some of the people's power? We've seen that in history.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Are you saying that now is not the time for the Democratic Party to talk about impeachment?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: It's not the time to talk about impeachment, but not just impeachment. I think we can look at it like this. There are many possibilities. In the party, President Yoon Suk Yeol should simply step down on his own after receiving an independent counsel. There are talks about shortening the term of office through constitutional amendment, and as you said earlier, there are talks about impeachment right away, but nothing has been decided and I think the people hold the key.
◆Bae Seung-hee: Yesterday, Hwang Un-ha, the floor leader, took over the role of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party as the new ice-breaker for impeachment. The Democratic Party says it will take on the main role, and later on, cooperation will take place. Are you really calling for impeachment together like that?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: During the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye, the party, the predecessor of the people's power, also impeached him. That's why the Democratic Party should take on the main role. Although you have said this, shouldn't the government and the ruling party take charge of the actual real situation now?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The government and the ruling party should take charge of impeachment. Anyway, the Democratic Party's current leadership seems to be a little distant from impeachment.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Rather than keeping a distance, we need a step in which the people can understand and move a little more about impeachment. Just because we call for impeachment doesn't mean it's impeachment right away. I think it's this kind of thought
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Park Chan-dae, the floor leader. In addition, Kim Gun-hee's refusal to be independent counsel will signal the fall of the government. That's what I said. If President Yoon rejects the independent counsel, will the Democratic Party consider impeachment again?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: It's a bit strange that we keep talking about impeachment and impeachment. What do you think? Now I feel like the situation itself is so tight that I have to talk about impeachment and I have reached a dead end. It's actually like that. It was the president of Yoon Suk Yeol who said, "Isn't it the culprit who refuses the special prosecution?" Various circumstances revealed now, including the contents of Myung Tae-kyun, and the contents related to Kim Gun-hee, and even these days, the president has been involved in the nomination of the district chief and the nomination of the mayor. People have suspicions about this, and if you don't have a special prosecutor, you're the one who won't let the special prosecutor do it. So, in order for the future of the Republic of Korea or the politics of the Republic of Korea to go right, it is of course the special prosecutor to make the special prosecutor itself neat. I think it will be a cooler path for the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, the government's ruling party, or for the people who support the government's ruling party. Yes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: However, after the first trial of Lee Jae-myung's first trial of the Public Official Election Act, the power of the people will be gathered more. This atmosphere is overwhelming. So in the re-voting, there were four votes last time, but there will be no leave vote this time. You're expecting it. How do you see it?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I think I saw an article in a leading conservative daily newspaper that said, "The people's power to expect the Democratic Party's reflective profits is not possible." Even so, inside the power of the people, the family of representative Han Dong-hoon is experiencing another problem because of the suspicion that he wrote on the party's bulletin board. So we can't know whether or not the power of the people is more united, and we can hope. I hope they don't rally. Yes, but what we want is not just to ask for a leave vote in some re-voting, but we don't want to call it a leave vote. Since each member of the National Assembly is his or her own constitutional institution, he or she wants to make various decisions based on his or her conscience and for the Republic of Korea. I think it's a question of whether to follow the public sentiment or the courage of Yongsan.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then, as you said, how many or how many votes do you expect from the conscience of this people's power?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I personally know some lawmakers, but I think all the people I know are conscientious people. I want to believe that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: How many people?
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: I think it will be at least 10 minutes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: More than 10 minutes, so I think there could be about 10 people leaving.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: And I think there's this. I think CEO Han Dong-hoon will also find a line that can't pass the special prosecution by throwing a message to Yongsan with his own proper line.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then since there are eight people now, do you expect about 7 votes if it's 8 votes? Handong
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: I would expect you to be using that strategy.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay, I got it. Opposition parties pointed out that President Yoon played golf during the South Korea-U.S. joint training. Since he is a golf fanatic of President Trump now, I think it is also important to play golf when he meets with the president, but the opposition parties are pointing out this explanation very much. How do you like it?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: This is what I told you when I asked the steering committee for the first time, but who doesn't know that President Trump is a golf lecture? And I admit that golf helps. But I don't think the level of diplomacy in the Republic of Korea or the level of many channels between the president and the president should play golf like that. If you are the president of a country, even if you don't play golf at this time, you don't have to go practice golf by creating many such issues in a situation where national affairs are difficult and people's livelihoods are difficult. And I think it's a sad reality that the president's explanation itself is not clear after lying.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: How was it a lie?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: First of all, according to the data we have done our own research and now re-polluting, we understand that we played golf in August and September, but the president's office is also rude of us to talk about how we haven't played in 8 years and to cover the golf course that covered golf. The president's office is making these remarks frequently. Of course, I've seen a lot of things in the Biden wave, but I think the attitude toward the media and the attitude toward the people is a bare face that shows what the president and the president's office are like and what the current address of diplomacy is.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's how you see it. But in the case of Prime Minister Abe, didn't you meet him because he gave you a Homa golf club as a gift and actually played golf? Shouldn't we consider that, too?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: You can play in golf. I'm not against playing golf. However, at this time of playing golf, didn't the media report it while trying to play it again two days after the public statement? I think the timing itself is a little inappropriate.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The timing itself was inappropriate.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Of course. And going to a golf course has many problems, not just playing golf, but inappropriately explaining this explanation itself.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: In the last public conversation, Hong Cheol-ho, senior secretary for political affairs, pointed out that the reporter who asked President Yoon to apologize was such a rude attitude. How did you like this part?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I feel very, very sorry. It is deplorable that the senior secretary for political affairs has such an attitude throughout the presidential office, and especially the senior secretary for political affairs, including the opposition party, is a person who has the key to solve this political situation.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What do you want me to apologize for?
◇ Capricorn: That's right. I think of the rewriting department. When I was an apple presidential candidate, I posted a picture of an apple with a dog and an apple after putting an apple on top. And isn't that exactly how you see the people? Several specific media outlets have never given a chance to ask questions during several press conferences. It's cheap.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay, I got it. You mentioned earlier that Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, exposed his involvement in President Yoon's nomination. How far do you think the investigation will go?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: We need to check whether the expansion really reaches the president, but I doubt whether the current political prosecutors are willing or capable of doing so, or whether there is such a distribution.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. The Democratic Party of Korea said it would file a complaint with the ethics committee against lawmaker Yoon Han-hong over the circumstances of Myung Tae-kyun's attempt to conciliate him. What do you think of this situation?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I filed a complaint yesterday with Representative Yuna-yong.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You were jailed.
◇Moh Kyung-jong: Yes, I did it myself, but I think it's very inappropriate to become a lawmaker and make a deal. During the parliamentary audit, the presidential chief of staff openly told the presidential chief of staff whether he had approached Myung Tae-kyun at the presidential office or contacted him. He didn't have anything to do with the gate, but there was a reason why he talked so confidently. What is it? I didn't contact the presidential office, but I felt that someone who received the story from the presidential office was in contact with Myung Tae-gyeom. I went behind and tried to conciliate and make a deal. So I think it's a situation like destroying various evidence. Furthermore, I know that when Representative Yoon Han-hong was doing Daeyoon Jungyoon, Daeyoon pointed to President Yoon Suk Yeol as a presidential candidate and Yoon Han-hong was called Jungyoon. The fact that such a person moved suggests a lot. The president can't move, so the person with the president's message moved.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Anyway, you're saying that this is also the subject of investigation.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Of course, we need to investigate, so please investigate. political prosecutors
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. It's the first time we've invited young people today. Thank you so much for answering me well. So far, I've been with Rep. Mo Kyung-jong of the Democratic Party of Korea. Thank you.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Thank you.
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□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 21, 2024 (Thursday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Rep. Mo Kyung-jong of the Democratic Party of Korea
* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.
[YTN Radio <News Fighting, Bae Seunghee]> Please clarify that it's about the interview.]
◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting. Thursday leads to youth regret in the third part. We have a new person today. In the past, Mo Kyung-jong, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's National Youth Committee, who is also the youngest member of the National Assembly in the Incheon district as the youth secretary of the Gyeonggi Provincial Government, was invited. Hello,
◇ Rep. Mo Kyung-jong of the Democratic Party of Korea (hereinafter referred to as Mo Kyung-jong): Hello, nice to meet you. It's a mother-of-pearl bell.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: When were you at the Gyeonggi Provincial Office, the youth secretary of the Gyeonggi Provincial Office?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Around October 2019, I went into the form of a commonly called public audition. Do you do it as a rosacea blind? That's why you're not the secretary who rode the usual line, but yes, you are doing that publicly. This is the secretary who went in.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Was Gyeonggi Province Governor Lee Jae-myung at the time? Right. You emphasized the need for young politics, what kind of politics is it?
◇Moh Kyung-jong: There may be many interpretations, but I don't think it's young politics when it comes to legal age. In the end, it's the standard of what you set as the standard and do politics, but I don't think it's young politics to say that you have to do this because you've only been involved in the past. Yes, we have to interpret it at this point. I think young politics is politics that says what to do in the future based on the present standard.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see what to do from now on. Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea, was sentenced to one year in prison and two years of probation in the first trial on charges of violating the Public Official Election Act. I think there's some internal nursery rhymes. Rep. Choi Min-hee is even saying, "If you move, you will die." How do you see the situation in this party?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: First of all, Representative Choi Min-hee said that he was too much to say about that. I'm not aware of the atmosphere of agitation in the party. All right. There are more people who say that you need to be more calm and determined. There are more people who say that we need to get together more.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Is that so? Some people seem to have made a mistake in responding to the violation of the Public Official Election Act. The Democratic Party of Korea's outdoor struggle and some lawmakers' remarks on presiding over judges also seem to have had an adverse effect. There's also this evaluation. How do you see it?
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: First of all, the person who said it was the subject of the judge was punished right away by the party. But I think that saying that itself is too light on the judiciary. It's not that this statement itself is, but that the result is that it is too light on the judiciary. I don't think that's what caused the results to go this way or that. And the same is true of the off-the-shelf struggle. The over-the-counter struggle itself was an over-the-counter rally that talked about the incompetence of President Yoon Suk Yeol and the Yoon Suk Yeol government itself and condemned the political prosecution, not at all an over-the-counter rally that pressured the law or the judiciary. That's why I think it's too much of a leap to interpret it like that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: But now the party will respond to this violation of the Public Official Election Act. I will respond at the party level. There were even remarks, but there were even comments that the party could even pay for lawyers. These parts seem a little problematic to do individual criminal cases at the party. What do you think?
◇Catricorn: First, it's a bit different to see it as an individual criminal case. CEO Lee Jae-myung is on various trials.Ma is a story of the Public Official Election Act, or the presidential election process, and since the presidential candidate has been prosecuted and the trial is taking place now, I think we should set a different standard from other cases even if we are responding at the party level. I don't think there's a problem with providing various support from the school itself. We can talk a little bit about other cases.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What kind of support will you apply for?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: First of all, it's not clear how to apply. However, at various levels of the party, it is possible to do various contents such as the legal aid law. I've heard this much.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. You said that the disability rally and these parts did not affect the ruling, but on the 25th of next week, there will be another trial on the perjury teacher charge, right? But in addition, the largest organization of the real name submitted 1.1 million petitions. Wouldn't these parts be seen as pressure on the judge?
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: You won't be pressured by that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'm not under pressure
◇Moh Kyung-jong: To simply say that I did it even though I wasn't pressured, I think it's very meaningful that I showed it by gathering the will of 1.1 million people or the will of 1.1 million people. Rather, if you're putting pressure on, broadcast the trial live. And I think that the people in the group who are talking about various things are pressuring the judiciary of the court. I think the people can submit a petition as much as they want. I don't know if the pressure level is high simply because the number is high, but that's how many people are innocent of that part of CEO Lee Jae-myung. I think you can think of it as just conveying your opinion.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What do you think, Senator? the 25th
for the guilt
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I'm not a law expert, but when I've studied like this, I found that the prosecution read several recordings when prosecutors were prosecuting, and we're claiming that we've fabricated evidence. There is a principle of presumption of innocence, and from that point of view, it is clearly more likely to be acquitted than in general cases.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You think it's big. I see. In the midst of this, the prosecution also indicted CEO Lee Jae-myung on suspicion of misappropriation of corporate credit cards. The Democratic Party of Korea is in a position where it goes this far. Do you see it as part of a political vendetta?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Of course. It's already the sixth time to indict CEO Lee Jae-myung. It's the sixth one. There are various reasons for the prosecution, but Lee Jae-myung did not even know whether he did it or not because he did not know the situation when he was governor. Representative Lee Jae-myung knew and ordered. Or you may have known. I think the prosecution without question, which prosecutes in this way, really shows the current address of the political prosecution.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You also worked for Gyeonggi Provincial Government. Yes, did you use the company card?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: No. I didn't have one.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then who has the corporate card?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Usually, people like the director-general had it.
◆Bae Seung-hee: I have the governor of Gyeonggi-do Province
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: I'm sure it was. I don't know exactly. Even when I was a secretary, I was now a secretary in charge of youth policy, but I always had no legalization
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You don't know. I see. In response, former lawmaker Yoo Seung Min said. Lee Jae-myung should step down as party leader until judicial risks are cleared. I said this. How do you see it?
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: I'd like to believe you said it out of good intentions. I've never personally met a member of the Yoo Seung Min, but he's a well-received one. I think you're very interested in other parties. Yes, just because you think it's up to you and step down from your position as the party leader doesn't mean that the cases called judicial risks don't disappear. And because he is performing his duty really well despite the various scandals that have occurred so far and he has not neglected it, he should step down because of the prosecution of the political prosecution. I don't think it's true at all, Bob
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Fisherman's orthodoxy. Yesterday, the Cho Kuk Innovation Party unveiled the impeachment motion against President Yoon Suk Yeol with 15 reasons for impeachment. The Cho Kuk Innovation Party, the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, and the Cho Kuk Innovation Party cannot prosecute the impeachment anyway, right? I think we need to cooperate with the Democratic Party of Korea, what do you think of the Democratic Party?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: It is true that more and more people are talking about the need for impeachment. And the Cho Kuk Innovation Party must have made a judgment at the party level. However, I think the first thing to do is to accurately convey information and talk about the reasons for the impeachment of the Yoon Suk Yeol government, rather than start a fire that lawmakers should prosecute the impeachment. Impeachment seems to be done by lawmakers, but it's actually done by the people. When the people talk about impeachment, wouldn't there be a time to talk about impeachment, regardless of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, the Democratic Party, and even some of the people's power? We've seen that in history.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Are you saying that now is not the time for the Democratic Party to talk about impeachment?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: It's not the time to talk about impeachment, but not just impeachment. I think we can look at it like this. There are many possibilities. In the party, President Yoon Suk Yeol should simply step down on his own after receiving an independent counsel. There are talks about shortening the term of office through constitutional amendment, and as you said earlier, there are talks about impeachment right away, but nothing has been decided and I think the people hold the key.
◆Bae Seung-hee: Yesterday, Hwang Un-ha, the floor leader, took over the role of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party as the new ice-breaker for impeachment. The Democratic Party says it will take on the main role, and later on, cooperation will take place. Are you really calling for impeachment together like that?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: During the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye, the party, the predecessor of the people's power, also impeached him. That's why the Democratic Party should take on the main role. Although you have said this, shouldn't the government and the ruling party take charge of the actual real situation now?
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The government and the ruling party should take charge of impeachment. Anyway, the Democratic Party's current leadership seems to be a little distant from impeachment.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Rather than keeping a distance, we need a step in which the people can understand and move a little more about impeachment. Just because we call for impeachment doesn't mean it's impeachment right away. I think it's this kind of thought
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Park Chan-dae, the floor leader. In addition, Kim Gun-hee's refusal to be independent counsel will signal the fall of the government. That's what I said. If President Yoon rejects the independent counsel, will the Democratic Party consider impeachment again?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: It's a bit strange that we keep talking about impeachment and impeachment. What do you think? Now I feel like the situation itself is so tight that I have to talk about impeachment and I have reached a dead end. It's actually like that. It was the president of Yoon Suk Yeol who said, "Isn't it the culprit who refuses the special prosecution?" Various circumstances revealed now, including the contents of Myung Tae-kyun, and the contents related to Kim Gun-hee, and even these days, the president has been involved in the nomination of the district chief and the nomination of the mayor. People have suspicions about this, and if you don't have a special prosecutor, you're the one who won't let the special prosecutor do it. So, in order for the future of the Republic of Korea or the politics of the Republic of Korea to go right, it is of course the special prosecutor to make the special prosecutor itself neat. I think it will be a cooler path for the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, the government's ruling party, or for the people who support the government's ruling party. Yes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: However, after the first trial of Lee Jae-myung's first trial of the Public Official Election Act, the power of the people will be gathered more. This atmosphere is overwhelming. So in the re-voting, there were four votes last time, but there will be no leave vote this time. You're expecting it. How do you see it?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I think I saw an article in a leading conservative daily newspaper that said, "The people's power to expect the Democratic Party's reflective profits is not possible." Even so, inside the power of the people, the family of representative Han Dong-hoon is experiencing another problem because of the suspicion that he wrote on the party's bulletin board. So we can't know whether or not the power of the people is more united, and we can hope. I hope they don't rally. Yes, but what we want is not just to ask for a leave vote in some re-voting, but we don't want to call it a leave vote. Since each member of the National Assembly is his or her own constitutional institution, he or she wants to make various decisions based on his or her conscience and for the Republic of Korea. I think it's a question of whether to follow the public sentiment or the courage of Yongsan.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then, as you said, how many or how many votes do you expect from the conscience of this people's power?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I personally know some lawmakers, but I think all the people I know are conscientious people. I want to believe that.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: How many people?
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: I think it will be at least 10 minutes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: More than 10 minutes, so I think there could be about 10 people leaving.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: And I think there's this. I think CEO Han Dong-hoon will also find a line that can't pass the special prosecution by throwing a message to Yongsan with his own proper line.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then since there are eight people now, do you expect about 7 votes if it's 8 votes? Handong
◇ Mo Kyung-jong: I would expect you to be using that strategy.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay, I got it. Opposition parties pointed out that President Yoon played golf during the South Korea-U.S. joint training. Since he is a golf fanatic of President Trump now, I think it is also important to play golf when he meets with the president, but the opposition parties are pointing out this explanation very much. How do you like it?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: This is what I told you when I asked the steering committee for the first time, but who doesn't know that President Trump is a golf lecture? And I admit that golf helps. But I don't think the level of diplomacy in the Republic of Korea or the level of many channels between the president and the president should play golf like that. If you are the president of a country, even if you don't play golf at this time, you don't have to go practice golf by creating many such issues in a situation where national affairs are difficult and people's livelihoods are difficult. And I think it's a sad reality that the president's explanation itself is not clear after lying.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: How was it a lie?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: First of all, according to the data we have done our own research and now re-polluting, we understand that we played golf in August and September, but the president's office is also rude of us to talk about how we haven't played in 8 years and to cover the golf course that covered golf. The president's office is making these remarks frequently. Of course, I've seen a lot of things in the Biden wave, but I think the attitude toward the media and the attitude toward the people is a bare face that shows what the president and the president's office are like and what the current address of diplomacy is.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's how you see it. But in the case of Prime Minister Abe, didn't you meet him because he gave you a Homa golf club as a gift and actually played golf? Shouldn't we consider that, too?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: You can play in golf. I'm not against playing golf. However, at this time of playing golf, didn't the media report it while trying to play it again two days after the public statement? I think the timing itself is a little inappropriate.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The timing itself was inappropriate.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Of course. And going to a golf course has many problems, not just playing golf, but inappropriately explaining this explanation itself.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: In the last public conversation, Hong Cheol-ho, senior secretary for political affairs, pointed out that the reporter who asked President Yoon to apologize was such a rude attitude. How did you like this part?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I feel very, very sorry. It is deplorable that the senior secretary for political affairs has such an attitude throughout the presidential office, and especially the senior secretary for political affairs, including the opposition party, is a person who has the key to solve this political situation.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: What do you want me to apologize for?
◇ Capricorn: That's right. I think of the rewriting department. When I was an apple presidential candidate, I posted a picture of an apple with a dog and an apple after putting an apple on top. And isn't that exactly how you see the people? Several specific media outlets have never given a chance to ask questions during several press conferences. It's cheap.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay, I got it. You mentioned earlier that Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, exposed his involvement in President Yoon's nomination. How far do you think the investigation will go?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: We need to check whether the expansion really reaches the president, but I doubt whether the current political prosecutors are willing or capable of doing so, or whether there is such a distribution.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. The Democratic Party of Korea said it would file a complaint with the ethics committee against lawmaker Yoon Han-hong over the circumstances of Myung Tae-kyun's attempt to conciliate him. What do you think of this situation?
◇Mo Kyung-jong: I filed a complaint yesterday with Representative Yuna-yong.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: You were jailed.
◇Moh Kyung-jong: Yes, I did it myself, but I think it's very inappropriate to become a lawmaker and make a deal. During the parliamentary audit, the presidential chief of staff openly told the presidential chief of staff whether he had approached Myung Tae-kyun at the presidential office or contacted him. He didn't have anything to do with the gate, but there was a reason why he talked so confidently. What is it? I didn't contact the presidential office, but I felt that someone who received the story from the presidential office was in contact with Myung Tae-gyeom. I went behind and tried to conciliate and make a deal. So I think it's a situation like destroying various evidence. Furthermore, I know that when Representative Yoon Han-hong was doing Daeyoon Jungyoon, Daeyoon pointed to President Yoon Suk Yeol as a presidential candidate and Yoon Han-hong was called Jungyoon. The fact that such a person moved suggests a lot. The president can't move, so the person with the president's message moved.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Anyway, you're saying that this is also the subject of investigation.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Of course, we need to investigate, so please investigate. political prosecutors
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. It's the first time we've invited young people today. Thank you so much for answering me well. So far, I've been with Rep. Mo Kyung-jong of the Democratic Party of Korea. Thank you.
◇Mo Kyung-jong: Thank you.
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