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■ Host: Anchor Park Seok-won, Anchor Um Ji-min
■ Starring: Kim Jin-ah, Professor of LD Department of Hankuk University of Foreign Studies
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[Anchor]
As you heard through local connection, the first TV debate between Harris and Trump, who had a fierce war of nerves from the preparation process of the debate, will begin soon.
[Anchor]
As the approval ratings of the two candidates are so close, attention is being paid to who will laugh after this debate. Let's talk with Professor Kim Jin-ah of LD Department of Hankuk University of Foreign Studies.Welcome.
[Anchor]
As previously connected locally, the preparation process was fierce. The two candidates have very different tendencies, so should we start with how we prepared during the preparation process?
[Kim Jin]
First of all, I think I had a variety of discussion strategies. First of all, this is a split screen. That's why we've prepared some reliable images and things that Harris doesn't show in terms of the fact that the camera is continuing to illuminate the candidate for the entire 90 minutes. And on Harris' side, I think we should never miss the timing to attack.
Because Trump is the type to keep talking alone. That's why I think it's very important to show how the balance is broken in this discussion. And Harris is said to have prepared a lot for how to highlight the issue, but abortion, medical care, and especially recent gun cases, are topics that the Democratic Party is strongly dealing with, so they must have predicted these.
That's why it's true that both sides have actually done their debate exercises. On the Harris side, Philip Naines is a former Clinton aide. At this time, when Secretary of State Clinton came out as a candidate, we had a presidential debate. That's why I played a role as a sparring partner by continuously reflecting my experience at that time.
And this is Karen Dunn, who has been teaching Democratic presidential candidates for nearly a decade. So, it can be said that you have taken these various attributes and certain courses. Trump is also known to have prepared the same.
So the former congressman from Hawaii, Democrat, is known to have worked with Harris in the Democratic primary, including Toussie Gebbard, so he's teamed up and practiced a lot. In the case of Harris, she has to speak for a very short time, but the speaking style itself is a bit long-winded.
That's why a lot of people have to really talk about tricks for two minutes in that part, but there's definitely something that blurs the focus, and they're interested in how to hold it.
[Anchor]
On the other hand, Trump is the type to throw strong words short and short. What kind of strategy did you bring today?
[Kim Jin]
In the case of Trump, I think he would have brought at least three. I think the first thing is to keep saying what you want to say. That's why voters who keep attacking what they want to do and are actually watching whether they're lying or not don't know, and there are people who don't have deep knowledge of this.
That's why I'm going to tell the lie I want to tell. And regardless of what kind of one-sided message or question comes in, the way you say what you want to say is probably a very traditional
discussion method, so I think you'll take those aspects.
There are three Harris attack points. It's been talked about a lot at the campaign site so far. The first is that you are a person of a failed regime. The second is not because she is a woman, but I will emphasize the image of being a little weak, and the third is very dangerous because even within the Democratic Party, they supported a lot of these policies that are a little radical and progressive. I think I will send a message that emphasizes these three things a lot.
[Anchor]
A seasoned show pundit, Trump vs. Harris, a former prosecutor in a way. I think we need to see how we'll have a discussion, but we'll connect at 10 o'clock in a little while and broadcast the local discussion live. The two will face off for 90 minutes. I think this part of how the discussion is conducted is divided into two people's advantages and disadvantages. How will it proceed?
[Kim Jin]
Let's ask questions and refute them for two minutes each. I told you earlier that two minutes are important. And when there's a follow-up question, I answer it for a minute. It's very short and short. There are no opening remarks.
Instead, I have a closing statement. It's two minutes each, and we decided who will do this first, but Trump decided to do it at the end. You might think that the last one is to put forward a strong message, which is very advantageous in this regard, but in the case of Harris, when the screen is divided, it is positioned on the right.
On average, people look at the right side much more carefully. So it can be said that there is an advantage that focuses the attention, but what we were a little worried about Harris was that he didn't show a strong performance in improvising without a script.
[Anchor]
I'm also showing you the graphic right now. You only brought a pen and a bottle of water on an empty paper, so you pointed it out in that part, right?
[Kim Jin]
That's right. So the things that you have to answer spontaneously are going to be tested this time. And even when advertising, you can't have any conversations with the staff, so I'll say that the characteristic of this discussion is that you have to engage in this discussion with your own thoughts.
[Anchor]
The topic of today's discussion has not been revealed in detail, but there are roughly expected parts, right?
[Kim Jin]
That's right. There are topics that each of us thinks are strong. So maybe the first thing Trump wants to talk about is immigration. And on the other hand, in Harris' case, the abortion issue and the economic issue are very important.
When evaluating economic reliability, Trump's side always comes out a little higher. And by emphasizing a little bit that the economy is deteriorating because of the recent economic recession and unemployment issues, Trump's side will take a lot of these things, such as Harris once worked in the White House, and what on earth did she do?
[Anchor]
Today's debate is organized by ABC, and wasn't there any other media or broadcasters and bad actors as well as former President Trump's ABC? However, ABC has less bad relationships compared to that, but there are also bad memories anyway.
[Kim Jin]
One of the reasons why I said I wouldn't discuss it with ABC was that there was a panel that I didn't really like, so I kept saying something different, but in fact, presidential debates are traditionally supposed to be held about three times during the presidential election.
That's the way we always did, but the two sides agreed on this debate for now, and later, in the case of Trump, let's do Fox. And let's do NBC, we proposed it that way, but after this discussion, we'll think about
gold and decide what to do, which remains undecided for now.
[Anchor]
But some people say that this could be the first and last time in the country.
[Kim Jin]
Since there's no official agreement yet. So, because we don't know what will happen in the future, there is a possibility that this will be the last time, so we have no choice but to say this.
[Anchor]
The approval ratings of the two candidates are very close right now. So, there are many analyses that there is a high interest and that this discussion is very important, but will the results of the discussion actually affect it?
[Kim Jin]
Well, in my opinion, this is a debate where the verification of Harris has not really been done nationwide. The reason why the Democratic Party was united like this is because the anti-Trump sentiment, that is, Trump should not be president, was stronger. Therefore, there is some expectation for the character, but there is also anxiety.
So there's definitely an aspect that you need to relieve this anxiety. Nevertheless, the anti-Trump sentiment I mentioned earlier, this is not going to change. So I think it's still hard to say that we're going to make a big difference because anti-Trump forces will continue to be anti-Trump unless they really mess up the debate. I think we need to look at the discussion first.
[Anchor]
Then, can't we know how the middle class will move?
[Kim Jin-ah]
What is actually important for the middle class is the period when they comfort voters within the party until the national convention in August. And I think that September is the time when the election actually begins. By September and October, the battle of how much the middle class or the independent class will attract people's votes will begin in earnest.
So what we can expect from today's debate is that Harris will try to take off the radical left-wing image anyway. In doing so, there is certainly a possibility that we will talk about moderate policies, and that kind of policy that the middle class will like, with some modifications.
I said, "That way, I can't be radical or any dangerous person and embrace something, and as I said at the convention, I will be the president for all Americans." And Trump, on the other hand, said, "The president for himself and the president for the rich," so it is expected that he will emphasize the aspects of this inclusion and the mild side a little more.
[Anchor]
In five minutes, we will connect locally and deliver it live. We're going to look at things like what to watch for five more minutes or what to pay attention to. First of all, in the case of Vice President Harris, she didn't increase her approval rating to some extent while accepting the nomination and giving an acceptance speech, but in fact, there are observations that the honeymoon effect has ended in a neck-and-neck structure. What do you think about this?
[Kim Jin]
It's true that there's no clear frontrunner yet. Because the important thing is, after all, it's a competitor. And Republican states, Democratic states, and things to be divided are already divided. That's why it's a question of who's better at cementing the battleground battleground. And because the votes that have already been divided are divided, no matter how much Harris chases them, they can't attract the other's votes.
That's why it's a big perspective of how to peak and maintain this and how to increase turnout on its own. So the contending states that we have to watch are Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, Michigan and Wisconsin have been a little stable and the Democratic Party has managed well.
But the remaining variable is Pennsylvania, which has the highest number of electors among the Rust Belt. And if we catch all three states now, the rest of the safe weeks plus 270, this is called the magic number. You can secure 270 people you need to secure to win. That's why Pennsylvania is the most important thing.
Because it's a toss-up here, and sometimes the results are slightly different for each pollster. Will the Democratic Party be able to hold this state well because it is a state where Trump sometimes leads and Harris sometimes leads and goes back and forth? This is the biggest issue. If you can't catch it, now you have to go down to the sun belt, the south side.
Because before and after the convention, there were a few southern states where Democrats were not so hopeful in the past. That's Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, Nevada. These states are gradually turning blue, but the number of electors is smaller than in Pennsylvania, which I mentioned earlier. That's why you have to bring at least two states to win the election even if you lose Pennsylvania. So let me tell you that what we need to pay attention to is, in the end, a race-state fight.
[Anchor]
Today's debate is also held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and we will connect the site in a moment to deliver the discussion site. With President Biden resigning, former President Trump is now the oldest candidate. He continued to attack President Biden for his old age. Now I think the arrow will come back the other way around. What do you think?
[Kim Jin]
I guess so. President Trump is not showing up so much on the campaign trail right now. So there are many speculations, but there is an opinion that he will not be able to handle a very tight schedule because he is old. And even when it came out, there were aspects that were a little awkward or rambling, which were a little inconsistent, but it got worse.
That's why I think it's because of my age. That's why if these various aspects of age were the weaknesses of the Democratic Party in the past, they're now the weaknesses of the Republican Party, and it also affects the consciousness of actually looking at each candidate.
So if you say who's good at performing their functions, there are aspects that are much more favorable to Harris than Trump. Another one. Then, in the case of Trump, it is so good to frame him as a person who is already in decline and a person of the past.
And the Democratic Party, on the other hand, is that Harris is a new person and a person who can talk about the future of the United States, and it has become a new variable that can be wrapped up in that frame. [Anchor] U.S. presidential debate. This is the first TV debate. There is about a minute left. I'm going to point it out for a minute.
You said earlier that competing stocks are a very important point to watch and the key, but if you look at the articles that came out today, you should have an abortion right. Because the vote for and against is held on the presidential election day, it will be very strong over abortion rights. These things came out.
[Kim Jin]
In the case of abortion rights, Democratic candidate Harris has been very interested in the fact that the federal government has actively recognized abortion rights, and because the state is still not protected at the federal level, the state has begun to change existing laws again and again. That's why it's still an ING-type task. In particular, abortion rights are the most important issue for the Democratic Party in that regard because there is a part that can unite women's votes.
[Anchor]
It's time now, but the TV discussion has not yet begun on-site, so we'll wait a little while and connect you to the site when the on-site TV discussion begins.
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■ Starring: Kim Jin-ah, Professor of LD Department of Hankuk University of Foreign Studies
* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information. Please specify [YTN 2024 U.S. presidential election TV debate] when quoting.
[Anchor]
As you heard through local connection, the first TV debate between Harris and Trump, who had a fierce war of nerves from the preparation process of the debate, will begin soon.
[Anchor]
As the approval ratings of the two candidates are so close, attention is being paid to who will laugh after this debate. Let's talk with Professor Kim Jin-ah of LD Department of Hankuk University of Foreign Studies.Welcome.
[Anchor]
As previously connected locally, the preparation process was fierce. The two candidates have very different tendencies, so should we start with how we prepared during the preparation process?
[Kim Jin]
First of all, I think I had a variety of discussion strategies. First of all, this is a split screen. That's why we've prepared some reliable images and things that Harris doesn't show in terms of the fact that the camera is continuing to illuminate the candidate for the entire 90 minutes. And on Harris' side, I think we should never miss the timing to attack.
Because Trump is the type to keep talking alone. That's why I think it's very important to show how the balance is broken in this discussion. And Harris is said to have prepared a lot for how to highlight the issue, but abortion, medical care, and especially recent gun cases, are topics that the Democratic Party is strongly dealing with, so they must have predicted these.
That's why it's true that both sides have actually done their debate exercises. On the Harris side, Philip Naines is a former Clinton aide. At this time, when Secretary of State Clinton came out as a candidate, we had a presidential debate. That's why I played a role as a sparring partner by continuously reflecting my experience at that time.
And this is Karen Dunn, who has been teaching Democratic presidential candidates for nearly a decade. So, it can be said that you have taken these various attributes and certain courses. Trump is also known to have prepared the same.
So the former congressman from Hawaii, Democrat, is known to have worked with Harris in the Democratic primary, including Toussie Gebbard, so he's teamed up and practiced a lot. In the case of Harris, she has to speak for a very short time, but the speaking style itself is a bit long-winded.
That's why a lot of people have to really talk about tricks for two minutes in that part, but there's definitely something that blurs the focus, and they're interested in how to hold it.
[Anchor]
On the other hand, Trump is the type to throw strong words short and short. What kind of strategy did you bring today?
[Kim Jin]
In the case of Trump, I think he would have brought at least three. I think the first thing is to keep saying what you want to say. That's why voters who keep attacking what they want to do and are actually watching whether they're lying or not don't know, and there are people who don't have deep knowledge of this.
That's why I'm going to tell the lie I want to tell. And regardless of what kind of one-sided message or question comes in, the way you say what you want to say is probably a very traditional
discussion method, so I think you'll take those aspects.
There are three Harris attack points. It's been talked about a lot at the campaign site so far. The first is that you are a person of a failed regime. The second is not because she is a woman, but I will emphasize the image of being a little weak, and the third is very dangerous because even within the Democratic Party, they supported a lot of these policies that are a little radical and progressive. I think I will send a message that emphasizes these three things a lot.
[Anchor]
A seasoned show pundit, Trump vs. Harris, a former prosecutor in a way. I think we need to see how we'll have a discussion, but we'll connect at 10 o'clock in a little while and broadcast the local discussion live. The two will face off for 90 minutes. I think this part of how the discussion is conducted is divided into two people's advantages and disadvantages. How will it proceed?
[Kim Jin]
Let's ask questions and refute them for two minutes each. I told you earlier that two minutes are important. And when there's a follow-up question, I answer it for a minute. It's very short and short. There are no opening remarks.
Instead, I have a closing statement. It's two minutes each, and we decided who will do this first, but Trump decided to do it at the end. You might think that the last one is to put forward a strong message, which is very advantageous in this regard, but in the case of Harris, when the screen is divided, it is positioned on the right.
On average, people look at the right side much more carefully. So it can be said that there is an advantage that focuses the attention, but what we were a little worried about Harris was that he didn't show a strong performance in improvising without a script.
[Anchor]
I'm also showing you the graphic right now. You only brought a pen and a bottle of water on an empty paper, so you pointed it out in that part, right?
[Kim Jin]
That's right. So the things that you have to answer spontaneously are going to be tested this time. And even when advertising, you can't have any conversations with the staff, so I'll say that the characteristic of this discussion is that you have to engage in this discussion with your own thoughts.
[Anchor]
The topic of today's discussion has not been revealed in detail, but there are roughly expected parts, right?
[Kim Jin]
That's right. There are topics that each of us thinks are strong. So maybe the first thing Trump wants to talk about is immigration. And on the other hand, in Harris' case, the abortion issue and the economic issue are very important.
When evaluating economic reliability, Trump's side always comes out a little higher. And by emphasizing a little bit that the economy is deteriorating because of the recent economic recession and unemployment issues, Trump's side will take a lot of these things, such as Harris once worked in the White House, and what on earth did she do?
[Anchor]
Today's debate is organized by ABC, and wasn't there any other media or broadcasters and bad actors as well as former President Trump's ABC? However, ABC has less bad relationships compared to that, but there are also bad memories anyway.
[Kim Jin]
One of the reasons why I said I wouldn't discuss it with ABC was that there was a panel that I didn't really like, so I kept saying something different, but in fact, presidential debates are traditionally supposed to be held about three times during the presidential election.
That's the way we always did, but the two sides agreed on this debate for now, and later, in the case of Trump, let's do Fox. And let's do NBC, we proposed it that way, but after this discussion, we'll think about
gold and decide what to do, which remains undecided for now.
[Anchor]
But some people say that this could be the first and last time in the country.
[Kim Jin]
Since there's no official agreement yet. So, because we don't know what will happen in the future, there is a possibility that this will be the last time, so we have no choice but to say this.
[Anchor]
The approval ratings of the two candidates are very close right now. So, there are many analyses that there is a high interest and that this discussion is very important, but will the results of the discussion actually affect it?
[Kim Jin]
Well, in my opinion, this is a debate where the verification of Harris has not really been done nationwide. The reason why the Democratic Party was united like this is because the anti-Trump sentiment, that is, Trump should not be president, was stronger. Therefore, there is some expectation for the character, but there is also anxiety.
So there's definitely an aspect that you need to relieve this anxiety. Nevertheless, the anti-Trump sentiment I mentioned earlier, this is not going to change. So I think it's still hard to say that we're going to make a big difference because anti-Trump forces will continue to be anti-Trump unless they really mess up the debate. I think we need to look at the discussion first.
[Anchor]
Then, can't we know how the middle class will move?
[Kim Jin-ah]
What is actually important for the middle class is the period when they comfort voters within the party until the national convention in August. And I think that September is the time when the election actually begins. By September and October, the battle of how much the middle class or the independent class will attract people's votes will begin in earnest.
So what we can expect from today's debate is that Harris will try to take off the radical left-wing image anyway. In doing so, there is certainly a possibility that we will talk about moderate policies, and that kind of policy that the middle class will like, with some modifications.
I said, "That way, I can't be radical or any dangerous person and embrace something, and as I said at the convention, I will be the president for all Americans." And Trump, on the other hand, said, "The president for himself and the president for the rich," so it is expected that he will emphasize the aspects of this inclusion and the mild side a little more.
[Anchor]
In five minutes, we will connect locally and deliver it live. We're going to look at things like what to watch for five more minutes or what to pay attention to. First of all, in the case of Vice President Harris, she didn't increase her approval rating to some extent while accepting the nomination and giving an acceptance speech, but in fact, there are observations that the honeymoon effect has ended in a neck-and-neck structure. What do you think about this?
[Kim Jin]
It's true that there's no clear frontrunner yet. Because the important thing is, after all, it's a competitor. And Republican states, Democratic states, and things to be divided are already divided. That's why it's a question of who's better at cementing the battleground battleground. And because the votes that have already been divided are divided, no matter how much Harris chases them, they can't attract the other's votes.
That's why it's a big perspective of how to peak and maintain this and how to increase turnout on its own. So the contending states that we have to watch are Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, Michigan and Wisconsin have been a little stable and the Democratic Party has managed well.
But the remaining variable is Pennsylvania, which has the highest number of electors among the Rust Belt. And if we catch all three states now, the rest of the safe weeks plus 270, this is called the magic number. You can secure 270 people you need to secure to win. That's why Pennsylvania is the most important thing.
Because it's a toss-up here, and sometimes the results are slightly different for each pollster. Will the Democratic Party be able to hold this state well because it is a state where Trump sometimes leads and Harris sometimes leads and goes back and forth? This is the biggest issue. If you can't catch it, now you have to go down to the sun belt, the south side.
Because before and after the convention, there were a few southern states where Democrats were not so hopeful in the past. That's Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, Nevada. These states are gradually turning blue, but the number of electors is smaller than in Pennsylvania, which I mentioned earlier. That's why you have to bring at least two states to win the election even if you lose Pennsylvania. So let me tell you that what we need to pay attention to is, in the end, a race-state fight.
[Anchor]
Today's debate is also held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and we will connect the site in a moment to deliver the discussion site. With President Biden resigning, former President Trump is now the oldest candidate. He continued to attack President Biden for his old age. Now I think the arrow will come back the other way around. What do you think?
[Kim Jin]
I guess so. President Trump is not showing up so much on the campaign trail right now. So there are many speculations, but there is an opinion that he will not be able to handle a very tight schedule because he is old. And even when it came out, there were aspects that were a little awkward or rambling, which were a little inconsistent, but it got worse.
That's why I think it's because of my age. That's why if these various aspects of age were the weaknesses of the Democratic Party in the past, they're now the weaknesses of the Republican Party, and it also affects the consciousness of actually looking at each candidate.
So if you say who's good at performing their functions, there are aspects that are much more favorable to Harris than Trump. Another one. Then, in the case of Trump, it is so good to frame him as a person who is already in decline and a person of the past.
And the Democratic Party, on the other hand, is that Harris is a new person and a person who can talk about the future of the United States, and it has become a new variable that can be wrapped up in that frame. [Anchor] U.S. presidential debate. This is the first TV debate. There is about a minute left. I'm going to point it out for a minute.
You said earlier that competing stocks are a very important point to watch and the key, but if you look at the articles that came out today, you should have an abortion right. Because the vote for and against is held on the presidential election day, it will be very strong over abortion rights. These things came out.
[Kim Jin]
In the case of abortion rights, Democratic candidate Harris has been very interested in the fact that the federal government has actively recognized abortion rights, and because the state is still not protected at the federal level, the state has begun to change existing laws again and again. That's why it's still an ING-type task. In particular, abortion rights are the most important issue for the Democratic Party in that regard because there is a part that can unite women's votes.
[Anchor]
It's time now, but the TV discussion has not yet begun on-site, so we'll wait a little while and connect you to the site when the on-site TV discussion begins.
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